On Tue, 2019-07-30 at 16:59 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
Am Mo., 29. Juli 2019 um 02:33 Uhr schrieb Jeremiah C. Foster jeremiah.foster@puri.sm:
[...] Also, uploads to Laniakea of certain packages are failing occasionally, something Guido has pointed out. We ought to speak with him to determine what the issues are and to smooth out the upload process.
All of the issues were in the uploaded packages so far (except for one sshfs mount issue months ago). The responsible component for handling uploads is dak (the Debian Archive Kit), which was sometimes giving less helpful messages, like the "No data." error recently when the .dsc file of the upload wasn't signed for some reason. I am very confident that all of these issues will go away once we have an automated pipeline for uploading :-)
An automated pipeline you say? Tell me more. ;-)
The more pressing issue that we need to decide ASAP though is how we handle the PureOS-based-on-Debian-stable flavor of PureOS. I didn't actually receive that much feedback on the proposed solutions, and I don't want to just go ahead with the solution I like best without knowing that people agree with that, or some discussion about it first. Meanwhile though, our current users receive no updates in the green suite, which isn't a good state to be in.
It's not a good state to be in, I think everyone agrees. Let's try and have a bias towards action, largely because if we move forward with a given approach and it breaks, we can change it. Yes, that may be difficult and messy (maybe not) but it is likely better than leaving current green users without a best-effort approach to security by bringing in Buster updates.
So, I'll express my preference here: green remains stable, we create a new 'amber' rolling release.
The consequences are;
- We need to assign resources to update green with the security and other updates from Debian. If you were to give me a login to Laniakea Matthias I can go about documenting the process with your help. I can be the resource for now and when there are other resources available, we can add them.
- We need to create the new amber release and document to our users how they may upgrade to that in their sources list.
Regards,
Jeremiah